Hey, my friends. What's going on? Welcome to the podcast. I am Corey Allen. You are you perhaps I mean today's

conversation that becomes disputed a little bit. We'll see what you think later just listen see if you

think you're still you once we get deeper into this podcast. I hope that you're doing well. Hope that

you're feeling good today and all that type of stuff. I've got a really really awesome podcast for you

this week. My guest is Carl Eric Fisher. Carl is an addiction psychiatrist bioethics scholar

author. He's an assistant professor of clinical psychiatry at Columbia University where he studies

and teaches law ethics and policy relating to psychiatry and neuroscience. He's the author of

the new book called The Urge Our History of Addiction which is intellectual and cultural history

of addiction. Interwoven with his own experiences as an addiction psychiatrist at Columbia.

This was such a unique discussion with a huge perspective and a lot of different entry points

into this topic. I had a great time speaking with Carl and I know you're going to dig this one.

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All right my friends the time is now. Let's go do it. Let's go talk to the brilliant

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