Okay, you ready to start this show!

Your host to the evening is a really funny dude.

I forgot his last name, but I've seen him before it.

He's really funny.

Give it up for Mike. Oh, nice!

Coming to you live on tape from the lucky 13th floor of a commercial high rise in beautiful Beverly Hills adjacent California

from the studios of Sirius XM West boasting an obstructed view of the

world famous Hollywood sign. This is the Tully show. I am your

host Mike Tully joining me today. A writer whose work has appeared in the New York Times,

the L.A. Times, The New Yorker Rolling Stone, Entertainment Weekly

and More. She is the author of the new book. You play the girl on Playboy Bunny's Stepford Wives, Train Wrex,

and other mixed messages.

Hello and welcome Karina Chocano.

Hi.

Thanks for coming by.

Thank you for having me.

And congratulations on, I've worked on some books and it feels great when they're done.

Yeah, it really does.

And I find that the further you get into it,

the last stages are among the most tedious stages.

You know, unless you're really into semicolons.

Yeah.

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