Caregiving at the End | Andy Clinnin

The Doctor's Art

Henry Bair and Tyler Johnson

Medicine, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Philosophy

5 • 2.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

On June 28, 2022, we released an episode featuring Ellen Dunphy, a 35-year old patient with a terminal diagnosis of gastric cancer who had been under the care of co-host Dr. Tyler Johnson. Ellen passed away a week later. Accompanying every step on her cancer journey was her husband, Andy Clinnin. In this episode, Andy joins us to share his experiences as Ellen’s caregiver and primary source of emotional support. Over the course of our conversation, we explore Andy and Ellen’s relationship fro...

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Henry Bear.
0:03.0	And I'm Tyler Johnson.
0:05.0	And you're listening to The Doctor's Art, a podcast that explores meaning in medicine.
0:09.0	Throughout our medical training and career, we have pondered.
0:13.2	What makes medicine meaningful?
0:15.1	Can a stronger understanding of this meaning
0:17.2	create better doctors?
0:18.8	How can we build health care institutions
0:20.6	that nurture the doctor-patient connection?
0:23.0	What can we learn about the human condition from accompanying our patients in times of suffering?
0:28.0	In seeking answers to these questions, we meet with deep thinkers working across health care, from doctors and nurses to patients and health care executives, those who have collected a career's worth of hard-earned wisdom.
0:40.0	Probing the moral heart that beats at the core of medicine, we will hear stories that are by turns heart-breaking, amusing, inspiring, challenging, and enlightening.
0:49.0	We welcome anyone curious about why doctors do what they do.
0:53.0	Join us as we think out loud about what illness and healing can teach us about some of life's biggest questions.
1:00.0	All right, well, we are really grateful today to be with a very special guest who, unlike some of our recent guests, this is probably someone that you haven't heard of, but who we consider it just as much of an honor to have him on the show as anybody else.
1:20.0	Our guest today is Andy Klineen. He is the husband of Ellen Dunphy whose story we profiled
1:28.9	in detail in episode number 17. And just to give the Super Readers Digest version, though I
1:37.1	encourage everyone who's listening to this episode to go back and listen to that
1:40.6	episode first, but just to give a sort of a timeline of events so that people know the story. I first met Ellen just a little bit more than two and a half years ago. She was a professional actress and I had somehow gotten
1:56.3	roped in by the hospital to doing this recording. It was going to be used as like a
2:01.5	training video to show other doctors how to have conversations surrounding difficult questions at the end of life.
2:09.0	And so I showed up one morning at a clinic in Redwood City and was there for four hours filming this video with an actress who I had never met before whose name was Ellen.
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