The following podcast contains explicit language.

Welcome to Mom and Dad are Fighting, Slate's Parenting Podcasts for Thursday, January 13th, the is Almost Petty Edition.

I'm Jamila Lemieux, a writer, contributor to Slate's Karen Feeding Parenting column and Mom to Naima,

who's eight and a half, and we live in Los Angeles.

I'm Elizabeth Newkamp. I write the homeschool and family travel blog Dutch Dutch goose.

I'm the mom to three littles, Henry who's nine, Oliver who's seven, and Teddy who's five, and we live in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

And I'm Zach Rosen. I host the Best Advice Show podcast, and I live in Detroit with my

family. Noah is four and Ami is one. On today's show, grab a knife and some veggies. We're

heading into the kitchen to help one mom sort out some meatless meals that her kids won't

completely hate. And then we're diving into one of life's most

complicated relationships, the one you have with your siblings. Is there a secret to raising

kids who form lifelong bonds versus ones that spend the rest of their lives tearing each other

apart? And then we've got some special guests joining us. The great Rachel and Madison from, in case you missed it, Slate's podcast on Internet

Culture, are stopping by to explain Elmo's feud with a rock.

Confused?

I'm not because I'm a smoking hot millennial and I saw the whole thing play out from the

beginning, so I know exactly what's going on with Elmo and the Rock, but I believe at least one of my co-hosts is confused. I don't know what damn thing. Some of you all, maybe too. So don't worry, we got the 4-1-1 for you later in the show. And on Slate Plus, we're talking about family activities that we're currently enjoying around the house these days.

As always, we're going to get the show started with the round of triumphs and fails.

Zach, can you kick things off?

Sure.

I feel like I've been doing a lot of triumphs lately.

It's not because my life is so great, but it's because the world is in need of just some small triumphs.

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