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🗓️ 19 June 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

First, an announcement: we’re excited to show you our new best-of playlist. Let us know if we’ve done an expert interview that you think is missing from the list.


In this episode from 2020, where Elizabeth, Jamilah, and Rebecca Lavoie were joined by Trina Greene Brown, the founder of Parenting for Liberation, to answer questions about race and police violence. 


We’ve also unlocked the Slate Plus bonus segment from this episode, where Jamilah was joined by Dr. Kira Banks to answer a listener question about colorism and complexion bias.



Resources: 

⁠Parenting for Liberation⁠

⁠Raising Equity⁠

Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria? by Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum

The Color Complex: The Politics of Skin Color in a New Millennium by Kathy Russell, Midge Wilson and Ronald Hall.

⁠A History of Policing⁠, an online class by ⁠Freedom Lifted⁠ for young people. 

The “⁠American Police⁠” episode of NPR’s ⁠Throughline⁠ podcast. 

Rebecca Lavoie’s ⁠instagram post⁠ of Henry’s protest sign. 



Join us on Facebook and email us at careandfeedingpod@slate.com to ask us new questions, tell us what you thought of today’s show, and give us ideas about what we should talk about in future episodes. You can also call our phone line: (646) 357-9318.


If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get to hang out with us on the Plus Playground every week for a whole additional grab-bag of content — and you’ll get an ad-free experience across the network. And you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Care and Feeding. Sign up now at slate.com/careplus – or try it out on Apple Podcasts.


Podcast produced by Maura Currie and Rosemary Belson.


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0:00.0

Hey listeners, it's Elizabeth. Juneteenth is a holiday for Slate, so we're off today, but we did want to share a cool announcement with you and an old episode that we think you'll love. First, the announcement. We've started a best of list of our favorite episodes on Spotify. Think of it as your go-to pool of experts on all things parenting. We're linking to it in the show notes, but you can also

0:21.8

find the playlist by searching for parenting school, Karen Feeding's smartest moments on Spotify.

0:28.4

This list is being built as we speak because this show has been around for a long time in podcast

0:34.0

years. So if you've got a favorite episode that's not on the list yet, be sure to

0:38.0

reach out to the show so that we can add it to the list. For today, we're sharing a conversation

0:42.3

that Jamila, Rebecca LaVoy, and I had with an expert back in 2020, all about talking to kids

0:48.5

about privilege, racism, and policing. And we've even unlocked the Slate Plus bonus segment for all of you, where you'll hear

0:56.6

Jamila talk to another expert about colorism and complexion bias. Five years later, we'll sure

1:02.6

you'll still get a lot out of this episode. So let's get going. But first, let's take a quick break.

1:10.8

Welcome to Mom and Dad are Fighting, Slate's Parenting Podcast for Thursday, June 18th,

1:15.4

the Let's Talk to Your Kids About Racism Edition.

1:18.7

I'm Jamila Lemieux, a writer, contributor to Slate's Karen Feeding Parenting column,

1:23.0

the communications consultant, a newbie screenwriter, and mom to Naima, who is seven.

1:28.5

We live in Los Angeles,

1:33.3

California. I'm Elizabeth Newkamp. I write the homeschool and family travel blog, Dutch, Dutch,

1:40.5

goose. I'm mom to three littles, Henry 8, Oliver, 6, and Teddy three. And I am in Navar, Florida.

1:46.2

I'm Rebecca LaVoy. I can't believe I also have kids named Henry and Teddy, along with one of the goes, this podcast. I am mom to Henry, who is 18, going on 19, Teddy who is 17, and my wonderful

1:53.6

stepdaughter, Lily, who just turned 20 this week. Well, Rebecca, we're so glad to have you back

1:59.0

this week. You agreed to fill in for Dan a while ago. And it just so happens that you're here on the show where we're going to be talking about all things racism.

2:08.1

Can't wait. We talk about it all the time. I honestly can't wait. I'm super excited about it. I've been getting so many questions from people who know me, like from a former parenting podcast persona about this.

2:19.1

I freaking love talking about it.

2:21.7

So I am down.

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