Cardinal McElroy: Sex and sin need a new framework in the church

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🗓️ 3 February 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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What would it take to build a radically inclusive church? That is the question Cardinal Robert McElroy took up in a recent article published by America. In it, he called on the church to dismantle the “structures and cultures of exclusion” that alienate some Catholics, including women, the poor, divorced-and-remarried couples and L.G.B.T. Catholics. Most controversially, he argued that people who do not conform to the church’s teaching on sex and marriage should not be excluded from receiving Communion. The article sparked a wide range of reactions online, and this week on “Jesuitical,” Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless bring on Cardinal McElroy on to the podcast to continue the conversation. They ask the cardinal whether he is in favor of open Communion, if the inclusion he’s advocating for requires a change in church teaching and if he’s worried that disagreements over the place of women and L.G.B.T. Catholics in the church could lead to schism. Cardinal McElroy shares his view that “judgmentalism is the worst sin in the Christian life,” and says his “pastoral vision here in San Diego is to make—and it’s hard to accomplish this—to make L.G.B.T. people feel equally welcome in the life of the church as everyone else.” Read, "Cardinal McElroy on ‘radical inclusion’ for L.G.B.T. people, women and others in the Catholic Church" Read the full transcript of Jesuitical's interview with Cardinal McElroy here. Watch: Why Pope Francis is going to South Sudan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Judge Whiticle, a podcast by the Young Hip and Lay editors of
0:15.2	America media that lay part means we aren't Jesuits but we work with them.
0:19.0	Join us each week for a smart Catholic take on faith culture culture, in the news, often over drinks.
0:24.5	I'm Ashley McKinless and I'm joined by Zach Davis.
0:27.3	Great to be in the studio with you today, Ashley.
0:29.3	Yes, we have an exciting episode coming for you guys.
0:33.0	That's right, this is a Jesuits First today.
0:35.9	Yep, we've talked to a couple of bishops before on the show.
0:38.8	Those have been great conversations.
0:40.6	But today we have our first red hat. We are talking to Cardinal Robert McElroy, the Bishop of San Diego.
0:48.0	That's right. Cardinal McElroy is the author of a new article in America magazine titled Cardinal McElroy on radical inclusion for LGBT people,
0:55.6	women and others in the Catholic Church. And the essay is fascinating.
1:00.1	You know, Cardinal McElroy is an important voice in the church and really a
1:03.5	leading figure in some of the the key discussions that are happening right now
1:07.1	especially in light of the Synod on Synodality and it definitely is kicked up a
1:11.4	conversation. Yes it certainly has it up a conversation. Yes, it certainly has.
1:14.0	It's gotten responses from such esteemed former Jesuitical guests as Ross Douthit in the New York Times
1:21.0	and many other outlets. And in it he goes into kind of the theology and
1:26.2	pastoral practice around the Eucharist and his vision for a much more open
1:31.6	approach to who comes to communion and how we reach out to people on the
1:36.2	peripheries of the church.
1:37.9	That's right and so this is a really, really important discussion.
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