Cardinal Dolan, Part 2: Inside The Conclave

The Untold Story with Martha MacCallum

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🗓️ 2 May 2025

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On Wednesday, Martha and Cardinal Dolan reflected on Pope Francis’s passing and the enduring hope within the Catholic Church. As the College of Cardinals prepares to elect a new pope, they look ahead to the Church’s future. As Cardinal Dolan enters his second conclave, he addresses the assertion that Cardinals belong to 'liberal' or 'conservative' camps -- emphasizing that the Cardinals see themselves as a connected group of believers working together to do what's best for the Church. He highlights the process' complexity, the central role of prayer, and addresses the question of whether he could ever become pope. Follow Martha on X: @MarthaMacCallum Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi everybody. Welcome back to the Untold Story podcast and Martha McCallum. So on Wednesday,
0:16.9	Cardinal Dolan and I spoke about what it was like to be in Rome.
0:24.2	We were part of a pilgrimage for the Jubilee Year 2025.
0:32.8	And then the news that Pope Francis had passed changed, obviously, a lot of that agenda. And we ended up covering that funeral for you live on Saturday.
0:37.5	So I had a conversation with Cardinal Dolan, a great interview with him at the North
0:42.2	American Pontifical College, and we talked about hope and vitality and the future of the
0:49.7	Catholic Church as the Cardinals prepare to go into the conclave in just a few days. It was a great
0:57.2	conversation, and I recommend that you listen to it as we get ready to cover this historic
1:02.9	conclave, which is coming up in just a few days. But today, I'm going to share the rest of our
1:07.1	conversation with Cardinal Dolan, and we speak a little bit more about what comes next.
1:12.8	He explains the role of the College of Cardinals and what the important process looks like
1:18.6	as they get ready to elect the next Holy Father to lead the Catholic Church.
1:23.4	Thanks for joining me, everybody. I hope you enjoy the rest of my conversation with Cardinal Dolan.
1:28.6	So what is, how do you get to know each other? When you look at this big group, do you have social events together?
1:34.0	We would know, we would already know of one another. I mean, you obviously know the new Cardinals. You kind of read their biographiesies you're kind of familiar with from where they came
1:44.7	but we don't know one another yet now we would some of the old timers we know one another but uh no so
1:52.3	first of all you'd listen to them but there's a lot of infirmality the coffee breaks are very important
1:57.3	i bet the coffee breaks are important We'll start going to lunch together,
2:01.3	dinner together, and just to get to know one another. Tell me about your church. Tell me about
2:06.8	the needs. Tell me about the challenges. They'll be saying that to us, the American Cardinals.
2:11.7	Tell us about the United States. What's going on? We hear this. We hear that. So it's a beautiful
2:16.6	pollination of wisdom and knowledge and people of the
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