CARDI B (with Pitchfork's Clover Hope)
Pop Pantheon
DJ Louie XIV
4.7 • 630 Ratings
🗓️ 12 August 2021
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
DJ Louie is joined by Pitchfork writer and author of the new book, The Motherlode: 100+ Women Who Made Hip Hop, Clover Hope, to discuss one of the hottest contemporary rap and pop stars, Cardi B. First, Louie and Clover break down the history of female rappers who operate as bonafide crossover pop stars, beginning with Roxanne Shanté and Salt N Peppa in the ‘80s through Nicki Minaj’s melting of the lines between hip hop and pop star in the last decade. They then discuss Cardi’s emergence as a social media personality, what made her uniquely charming in that space, the singular position of having to translate an established personality into musical form, the surprise success and critical acclaim of her debut album Invasion of Privacy, the unique ways Cardi’s musical career operates as just one aspect of her broader celebrity, and finally the doors she has helped open for the plethora of female rappers currently all operating at once in the pop space. Finally, Louie and Clover debate which tier to place Cardi in in the official Pop Pantheon.
Check out Louie's Playlist of Cardi B Essentials on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1R2aNuBZHWrjHbuh0gamO2?si=2fc5b3d72eb242a8
Buy Clover's Book The Motherlode: 100+ Women Who Made Hip Hop: https://www.amazon.com/Motherlode-100-Women-Made-Hip-Hop/dp/1419742965
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Pop Pantheon, the podcast where we completely overanalyze the music, legacy, and cultural impact of all your favorite pop stars. |
| 0:19.3 | I'm your host, DJ Louis X. Louisth, and I'm a DJ, writer, |
| 0:23.1 | and all-around pop music fanatic. I've spent my entire life and career thinking about, |
| 0:27.8 | dissecting, and being obsessed with pop stars. Their music, their legacies, how they relate to one |
| 0:33.1 | another, to the larger pop musical landscape, and to culture more broadly. What separates an icon from a mere superstar? |
| 0:39.8 | Why does some careers become the soundtrack to our lives, and why do others flop? |
| 0:44.7 | Whose work in legacy transcends time, and whose feel stuck in it? |
| 0:48.4 | Every episode of Pop Pantheon, we'll devote an entire episode to a pop icon, |
| 0:53.0 | from Titans of the Genre like Beyonce and all the |
| 0:55.3 | way down to lesser Titans, like Nicole Scherzinger. Each episode, you'll hear a little breakdown from |
| 1:02.5 | me, and then some distinguished guests and I will chop it up about their careers, discographies, |
| 1:07.5 | public personas, live performances, music videos, feuds, tweets, you name it. |
| 1:12.6 | And at the end, we'll turn pop into fantasy football, make our final judgment, and place them |
| 1:17.7 | in the official pop pantheon. |
| 1:20.2 | Hello, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Pop Pantheon, now with new and improved |
| 1:26.5 | audio. |
| 1:31.3 | Yes, I have finally graduated to a big boy microphone. Maybe I'm the only one who's going to notice the difference, but let me tell you that |
| 1:35.7 | is good enough for me. I'm so glad you guys are back for another episode. I'm going to keep my |
| 1:40.8 | remarks brief up top here, which are just to say, first a question, which is, I'm going to keep my remarks brief up top here, which are just to say, first, a question, which is, I'm wondering, would you guys like to hop into a Discord with me at some point over the next couple of weeks and make that a thing with every episode? |
| 1:56.0 | Like, would it be fun for us to all talk on Discord about the week's episode and to have a conversation? I thought that that could be fun. That was suggested to me. And I'd love if you let me know if that's something you guys would do. If that's something you want to do, hit me up in my DMs, either on Pop Pantheon Pod on on Instagram or at DJ, L-O-U-I-E X-V on Instagram or Twitter. |
| 2:18.3 | And let me know and we can all Discord. |
| 2:20.3 | I think that sounds kind of fun. |
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