My name's Will DeFries, and this is the Sunday Scaries podcast, your cure for the Sunday Blues.

When I first fell headfirst into the Grateful Dead in 2019, it wasn't just the music that got me.

It was everything surrounding it. The history, the community, the way the whole thing felt

stitched together by something looser and more lasting than time. That curiosity led me to Jay

Blakesburg photographs, which somehow captured all of it, the energy, the the faces the fleeting moments that now feel

familiar his archive didn't just document the scene it deepened my understanding of it and in recent

years his daughter ricky is stepping in to help carry it forward and that legacy feels more alive

and intentional than ever jay, Ricky, welcome to the show.

Hello.

So, I mean, I could ask a million different questions right now. I've pretty much been waiting

to have some Grateful Dead conversation for years now on this podcast, but haven't had a good

excuse to. How did, I mean, I think you two probably have

much different journeys when it comes to getting into the music and getting into the scene.

And so whoever wants to start, I'm okay with that.

What exactly are you asking? Did you, so where, when you, I've, so I've watched Jay's

slideshow, which if you ever have the opportunity to do so, you know,

it's such a cool look into the history.

I know that when you went to your first show, you were kind of, I mean, tell me about your

first show that kind of made you realize I want to start photographing them professionally

or I want to follow them even more.

Got it.

You know, you don't really realize that at your first time. I mean, for me, it goes back to

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