Captain Kirk Warned Us About the Dangers of AI | "The Ultimate Computer" (TOS)
The Mary Trump Podcast
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🗓️ 22 February 2026
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Mary Trump and Bob Cesca reveal how a classic Star Trek AI episode (The Ultimate Computer) predicted Trump-era chaos, billionaire tech power, and why empathy—not automation—must save democracy.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everybody, and welcome to this week's episode of Trek politics. It's great to have you here. |
| 0:05.5 | I'm Mary Trump with my friend and co-host, Bob Susska. |
| 0:08.6 | Hey, Bob. We have what I think is going to be a fabulous episode because of the episode of Star Trek, |
| 0:16.2 | the original series we got to watch this week. |
| 0:18.8 | Most definitely. As always, Mary, spoilers ahead. |
| 0:22.8 | This week, we're talking about the ultimate computer from season two, |
| 0:26.6 | written by the great D.C. Fontana, based on a story by Lawrence and Wolf and directed |
| 0:31.3 | by John Meredith Lucas. In this episode, Star Trek predicts AI. |
| 0:37.6 | The enterprise is assigned by Starfleet to test Dr. Richard Daystrom's M5 Multitronic |
| 0:42.6 | Computer, which has the potential to replace the entire crew of a starship, forcing our |
| 0:48.3 | heroes to question whether they'll have a career or be replaced by automation. |
| 0:53.5 | Daystrom installs and activates the M5 aboard the |
| 0:56.1 | Enterprise, which will be tested in a war game scenario against Commodore Bob Wesley's Starship Lexington. |
| 1:02.8 | But things go horribly awry when the M5 fails to understand how war games work and attacks |
| 1:09.4 | both an unmanned or freighter than several |
| 1:12.7 | Constitution-class starships killing hundreds. Yes, it's another Star Trek episode with a |
| 1:18.8 | self-aware, megalomaniacal supercomputer. And as I said, this is a cautionary tale about AI |
| 1:24.6 | decades before AI existed, Mary. |
| 1:28.1 | It's an incredible episode. |
| 1:29.8 | It's complex. |
| 1:31.0 | And we are going to cover all of it. |
| 1:33.4 | So buckle up. |
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