Capital Punishments
Cato Podcast
Cato Institute
4.6 • 949 Ratings
🗓️ 21 August 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
As President Trump’s “crime emergency” puts troops on D.C.’s streets, socialist Zohran Mamdani surges ahead in the New York mayoral race. On the panel, Cato scholars debate whether America’s capitals of politics and finance are becoming laboratories for failed ideas.
Featuring Ryan Bourne, Gene Healy, Clark Neily, and Marian Tupy
Ryan Bourne, “Zohran Mamdani’s ‘War on Prices’,” Commentary (June 13, 2025) cato.org
Scott Lincicome, “State-Run Supermarkets: A (Bad) Statist Solution in Search of a Problem,” Commentary (July 10, 2025) cato.org
Marian L. Tupy, “Marian L. Tupy Discusses His Experiences Living Under Communism on Prager U’s Stories of Us Podcast,” Media Highlights TV (November 14, 2023)
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| 0:00.0 | Bros and Affliction T-shirts are going to descend on the White House like drunks at Andrew Jackson's inauguration. |
| 0:07.1 | The presidency is going to look a little less regal, and everyone's going to have a bloody good time. |
| 0:12.3 | That's my good news story. |
| 0:16.1 | Welcome to the Cato podcast. |
| 0:18.3 | I'm Gene Healy, Senior Vice President for Policy, here again with Ryan Bourne, holder of the Cato podcast. I'm Gene Healy, senior vice president for policy. Here again with |
| 0:22.5 | Ryan Bourne, holder of the Sharf Chair for the Public Understanding of Economics at Cato. From that |
| 0:29.8 | chair, he directs the rearguard guerrilla campaign against the war on prices. Hi, Dr. We're joined today by our Cato colleagues, Clark Neely, senior VP for legal studies, |
| 0:43.4 | with a special interest in police accountability and criminal justice issues. |
| 0:47.7 | Good morning. Good to be here. |
| 0:49.8 | And Cato's designated optimist, Marion Toope. |
| 0:54.3 | Marion is the founder and editor of HumanProgress.org, your one-stop shop data source for all the data on how it's getting better all the time. |
| 1:04.7 | Thanks to markets and human ingenuity. |
| 1:07.0 | Thanks for having me. |
| 1:07.9 | Good to be here. |
| 1:08.4 | Great. |
| 1:09.5 | It's Urban Policy Week on the Cato podcast, a tale of two cities. |
| 1:15.6 | Our nation's capital, which President Trump says, quote, has been overtaken by violent gangs and bloodthirsty criminals and drugged out maniacs. |
| 1:26.1 | He's ordered a surge of federal law enforcement officers and national guardsmen to, quote, |
| 1:31.0 | make D.C. safe again. |
| 1:33.7 | And the country's financial capital, New York City, which appears to be on the brink of |
| 1:39.5 | electing a 33-year-old socialist, Zoran Mandami, as mayor. We're taping this at Cato headquarters, |
| 1:48.7 | so let's kick things off closer to home in the federal city, which got even more federal |
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