All right, a lot of people treat what's happening in the right-wing media ecosystem as fringe that we don't need to pay attention to.

Look who's president. We should pay attention to this. And there is a civil war happening in the MAGA influencer world.

And we, and I've had it, are seated for all of the drama and joining me today

is one of my favorite journalists who covers all of this piping hot tea Will Summer, a senior

reporter at the bulwark where he writes the false flag newsletter on right wing media

and hosts the weekly Maga Monday live stream. Will will I'm going to play a clip for you in

case my listeners and viewers don't quite understand the psychology and the duplicity

in the hypocrisy that you cover here is Laura Limer canna so is just one resentful

ghetto black bitch like that's literally what she is she she's a racist too. Like you can listen to this. And I'm not a racist person, right? Like I don't hate black people. But I say she's a ghetto black bitch because you have to listen to the way that she has so much resentment for white girls. Like white girls with blonde hair and blue eyes. And you know, I'm originally a blonde too.

I want hair and blue eyes, right?

Maybe that's why Candace has so much resentment towards me.

I've heard enough.

I've heard enough.

She got kind of a crazy tan, too.

That's among other things.

Okay, so Laura Lumer and Candace Owens have been going at it recently.

What started the beef and where does it stand right now?

Sure.

So Candace Owens, you know, ever since Charlie Kirk's assassination has really been on the rampage.

And she's been saying, you know, implying that Israel did it, you know, Erica Kirk did it, all these other things.

Laura Lumer is obviously very pro-Israel.

But more recently, Candace has really turned on Trump and sort of said, you know, Trump

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