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More or Less: Behind the Stats

Cancer screening, the Windrush Generation, Audiograms

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2018

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

(0:32) Breast screening – the Numbers: 450,000 women have accidentally not been invited for breast cancer screening

(07:26) Counting the Windrush Generation: What do we know about those who might be lacking documentation

(11:15) Has Nigel Farage been on Question Time too often? We chart his appearances over 18 years

(16:32) Painting a picture with an audiogram: Data journalist Mona Chalabi talks about her unusual approach to analysing numbers.

Presenter: Tim Harford Producer: Charlotte McDonald Editor: Richard Vadon

Transcript

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0:00.0

Just before this BBC podcast gets underway, here's something you may not know.

0:04.6

My name's Linda Davies and I Commission Podcasts for BBC Sounds.

0:08.4

As you'd expect, at the BBC we make podcasts of the very highest quality featuring the most knowledgeable

0:14.3

experts and genuinely engaging voices. What you may not know is that the BBC

0:20.4

makes podcasts about all kinds of things like pop stars,

0:24.6

poltergeist, cricket, and conspiracy theories and that's just a few examples.

0:29.7

If you'd like to discover something a little bit unexpected, find your next podcast over at BBC Sounds.

0:36.0

Hello and welcome to More or Less, the program that gives numbers a bracing ice bath followed by an invigorating backrob. This week the former Home Secretary

0:46.6

Amber Rod said she doesn't know how many people may have been threatened with deportation

0:51.8

despite having the right to live in the UK, so we'll take

0:55.2

a crack at the problem. Also a popular guest on question time.

0:59.4

Nigel Farage. And the Queen of Too Much Information, Data Journalist Mona Chalaby.

1:09.1

But first, this week the Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, made a statement in the House of Commons to say that

1:15.1

due to an administrative mistake, 450,000 women aged 68 to 71 were not invited to their final breast cancer screening.

1:26.0

Our current best estimate, which comes with caveats as it's based on statistical modeling rather than patient reviews and because there is

1:35.9

currently no clinical consensus about the benefits of screening for this age group is

1:41.5

that there may be between 135 and 270 women who had their lives shortened as a result.

1:49.0

Well where does a number like that come from?

1:52.0

We turn to Cambridge Professor David Siegelhalter,

1:55.6

president of the Royal Statistical Society and perhaps more importantly a leading medical statistician.

2:02.0

We asked him to stop what he was doing and tell us, please,

2:05.2

if this number of up to 270 affected women was reasonable. So in one hand he had the back of an envelope

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