Hello everyone and welcome to talk nerdy. Today is Monday January 18th

2021. It is two days before inauguration day here in the States and I'm the host of

the show Kara Santa Maria and I want to

just start out by thanking you once again for making Talk Nurdy possible.

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All right, let's talk about today's episode.

This is a good one.

So I had the opportunity to sit down with Dr. Cat Arnie, virtually, of course. We didn't actually sit down in the same room.

Actually, from across the pond. She's a leading British science writer, broadcaster, and public speaker.

Her PhD is actually in. broadcaster and public speaker.

Her PhD is actually in developmental genetics

from Cambridge and she does an incredible

and really important amount of work in public science communication.

She's also got a great podcast called the Genetics Unzipped Podcast,

and she's got a new book out. It's called Rebel Cell, Cancer Evolution,

and the new science of life's oldest betrayal. This one is near and dear to my heart.

So without any further ado, here she is Dr. Cat Arnie.

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