Canada Takes on the Proud Boys
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🗓️ 12 February 2021
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Lost in the shuffle of an impeachment trial here in the United States was big news from Canada last week. Canada’s Minister of Public Safety added the Proud Boys to Canada’s terror entity list. The listing might be in Canada, but the group had a role in the January 6 storming of the U.S. Capitol. The listing has all sorts of interesting legal and national security implications, so Jacob Schulz talked it through with two Canadian national security experts. Jessica Davis is a former senior strategic intelligence analyst with the Canadian Security Intelligence Service who is now the president of Insight Threat Intelligence and a PhD student at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs at Carleton University. And Leah West is an assistant professor of International Affairs at Carleton University and serves as counsel with Friedman Mansour LLP. They talked about right-wing extremism in Canada, what the consequences of the listing might be and what it reveals about the relationship between Canada and the United States.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:34.0 | What we're really seeing ideologically motivated violent extremism is basically export of |
| 0:40.1 | these ideologies from the United States. |
| 0:42.4 | That's not to say that they're not finding fertile ground in Canada, but a lot of them |
| 0:47.0 | are really originating in the United States. |
| 0:49.6 | So I think that we're going to see a little bit more of this kind of activity, but at the |
| 0:53.3 | same time when you look at this listing, it's not like Canada has sanctioned the US for |
| 0:58.8 | that act, which is something that you'd expect to see with basically any other country |
| 1:03.1 | that was exporting extremism. |
| 1:05.0 | So there's a real, obviously we're not going to sanction the US, I hope in any kind of way, |
| 1:09.4 | but there's a real nuance in terms of what's happening on the counterterrorism space here. |
| 1:14.5 | I'm Jacob Schultz and this is the LawFair podcast, February 12, 2021. |
| 1:22.0 | Lost in the shuffle of an impeachment trial here in the US was big news from Canada last |
| 1:26.4 | week. |
| 1:27.9 | Canada's minister of public safety added the proud boys, a right-wing group, to Canada's |
| 1:33.1 | terror entity list. |
| 1:35.3 | The listing might be in Canada, but the group did have a role in the January 6th storming |
| 1:39.6 | in the US Capitol. |
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