Welcome to the Animal Law Podcast.

On this episode, we are headed to Canada.

Don't get nervous.

Don't get nervous.

We have a great interpreter of Canadian law.

If you don't happen to be Canadian,

and I don't think most of our listeners are,

since we don't really focus on Canadian law.

But this is a great case, and this is a case that everybody should be familiar with, because it involves some issues that I think no matter where you are, you want to know more about.

And our guest today is, once again, Camille Labchuck, I think she was on in 2016, was the last time. So welcome back, Camille. And Camille is an

animal rights lawyer and the executive director of Animal Justice, which is Canada's leading legal

advocacy organization for animals. And she's been doing this for 15 years. And she's actually

working to transform how Canada sees and treats animals. And I think she's been doing this for 15 years, and she's actually working to transform how Canada sees and treats animals.

And I think she's been having some success.

This is a fascinating case involving an animal that I think everybody cares about horses.

And I can't wait to get into it.

Before I do, just a quick reminder about the Our Hand House podcast, Rising Anxieties comes out on Tuesdays. The Hand Report on Thursdays, the long-form interview, which is this on Fridays. And bonus for flock members comes out on Monday where a podcast, we're on YouTube. Please subscribe and hit like wherever you listen. And now welcome, Camille. Mariette's great to be with you. It's great to be with you. It's been too long, way too long. And I'm glad we're going to be talking about this case. Actually, it's very lucky because when I first heard about this case, I thought it involved, I was trying to create a connection to the United States where, you know, it's a legal program.

So most of our listeners are in the United States.

And I thought it had to do with all the American horses that we ship to Canada for slaughter.

And you've corrected me and said, no, no, no, this is a whole different thing.

But then when I found out about it, I'm glad that I made that mistake because I really want to hear about this case.

And just let's start with the facts. Can you just tell us about the horse export industry in Canada?

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