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Love, Happiness and Success with Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

Can Your Relationship Survive “The Ick?” | Matt Hussey | Love | E475

Love, Happiness and Success with Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

YAP Media Network | Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

Relationships, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7890 Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Have you ever been totally into someone and then suddenly… you get the ick? One minute you’re feeling the spark, the next you’re questioning everything over something as small as flip-flops. Getting the ick can feel like a dealbreaker, but does it really mean your relationship is doomed - or is it pointing to something deeper inside of you? In this episode, I talk with therapist and journalist Matt Hussey about what the ick really is, why it shows up, and how to handle it without panicking or shutting down. We’ll look at the biology of disgust, the ways old hurts and perfectionism can shape our reactions, and how curiosity can transform that “ugh” moment into an opportunity for growth and connection. Matt also points out (as he shared in Vogue) that sometimes the ick is less about your partner and more about self-protection. Instead of working through discomfort or vulnerability, we latch onto surface-level quirks. Understanding that difference between a fleeting ick and a real red flag can help you respond with clarity instead of fear. Episode Breakdown: 00:00 What Is the Ick? 03:00 Getting the Ick in Modern Relationships 11:13 Why Curiosity Matters More Than Snap Judgments 22:07 Self-Protection, Trauma, and the Ick 29:15 How to Handle the Ick in Relationships 38:29 Avoidant Attachment and the Ick 44:10 Fantasy vs. Reality in Love Reflect with me for a moment: What has triggered the ick for you in the past? Did it reveal something about your partner, or did it say more about what was happening inside of you? And how might curiosity change the way you respond the next time those feelings come up? If you’d like more support around communication and connection, check out my Communication That Connects Free Training and take the How Healthy Is Your Relationship? Quiz for a clear snapshot of what’s working and what could use care. And let’s stay connected - join me on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube, where I share more tools to help you grow in love and life. If this episode sparked a question or an idea you’d like me to explore next, I’d love to hear from you. Let’s talk! I also want to thank today’s sponsor, Headway. As much as I love books, finding time to read isn’t always realistic. That’s why I use the Headway app - it gives me key takeaways from incredible books in minutes. I use it almost every day as part of my own growth. You can save 25% when you go to makeheadway.com/lhs and use promo code LHS. Let’s keep learning and growing together. 🌱 xoxo, Dr. Lisa Marie BobbyGrowing Self

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0:00.0

Everything was going great in your relationship.

0:03.0

You were feeling so good about your partner, you were viving, and then one day they wore flip-flops

0:09.8

out in public.

0:11.2

Now, all of a sudden, it just feels different.

0:15.1

This experience is referred to as the ick.

0:19.2

This sudden feeling of repulsion, revulsion, even discussed,

0:26.6

that can change the whole experience of a relationship,

0:30.9

and it can happen just like that.

0:34.0

Of course, this is always distressing and confusing, and that is why we are unpacking this

0:40.3

whole situation with therapist Matt Hussie, who has a lot of insight into what's really

0:47.1

going on here and also some direction on how to come back to a nice place in your relationship if these feelings are starting to bubble up.

0:57.3

So, Matt, thank you so much for joining me today.

1:01.0

Hi, Lisa. Yeah, great to be here.

1:03.6

And, yeah, my name's Matt Hussie.

1:05.5

Now, a sort of public message, I guess, there are, there's more than one one nut hussy in the world. There is another

1:11.9

nut hussy who is a very popular dating coach, especially in America. So just a little public

1:17.3

disclaimer, I'm not the dating coach. I am the humble therapist and journalist who has been working

1:25.2

in journalism and therapy and mental health for about 20 years. What led me to

1:29.7

the ick was it kept turning up in my therapy room. I work with couples. I work with individuals

1:36.9

and you see it enters as language, but it becomes something much bigger. It becomes something

1:43.6

around identity and perfectionism

1:47.0

and fear of vulnerability and disgust and lots and lots of things. So my own curiosity really led me to

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