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Hello, and welcome to the Thinking Fellows podcast. My name is Caleb Keith, and today I am

joined by Adam Francisco and Bruce Hillman. My father, Scott Keith, is traveling to speak at a district

pastor's convention. So, or what do they call those? Are they called conventions?

No, it's a pastor's conference.

I'm actually going up to meet him tomorrow.

I'm giving a talk on Tuesday and Wednesday as well.

He's doing the plenaries, and it's going to be fun to watch because I'm sure he's going to

ruffle some progressivist feathers.

Oh, cool. I'm going to go up there withivist feathers. Oh, cool.

I'm going to go up there with the, maybe I'll get some popcorn.

It's the opposite feathers from which people think we might ruffle.

So, like, bro.

Amazing, because people don't pay attention.

But, well, that's good.

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