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apply. 18 plus scummelaware.org.commodaware. Dot-all. Hello listeners. I'm so excited. You're back. Welcome to Real Talk Whole Life. I am excited to introduce you today to Robin Dusharm, who is here to talk with us really about some interpersonal things that I think we all need to work

on. And I used to hear interpersonal skills when I was a corporate management type person. And I don't

think I understood how very important this life skill is for every aspect of our being. And in today's modern world,

I talk all the time about how divisive we have become and how difficult it is to have

good relationships with people with varying beliefs.

And what I wanted to talk about today with Robin, who has written a book on the topic

and can give us some more insight, is this idea that we can be open and willing to have conversations with someone,

even if they don't necessarily have the same beliefs as us,

that there are other things to relate to someone about,

about how we can listen, how we can learn and grow,

how behaviors aren't necessarily the person itself. We can not like a behavior, but we can still love the person, all of these

kinds of things that I think are important in what is happening in the world today. And I'm going to

ask you, Robin, so welcome again. Did you see the

SNL skit? So I know listeners are going to hear the show later. But for us, there was an SNL

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