This is Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby, and you're listening to the Love, Happiness, and Success

podcast. Can you be friends with your ex? Should you be friends with your ex? Find out on today's

episode. We are listening to the legendary Lord Huron together. This is that Gola song. It's from their new album. The album is called Long Lost. The song is mine forever, which is very appropriate for our subject today. Today we are

going to be talking about one of the most difficult aspects of a breakup or divorce for many

people, which is the conundrum of being friends with your ex. Is it possible?

Is it a good idea?

If so, how does one achieve it and maintain their sanity?

All will be revealed over the course of today's podcast.

Last note about Lord Huron, I feel obligated to mention.

This amazing band is currently on tour as I'm recording

this. And for my friends in Colorado, they're coming to Red Rocks. So get your tickets now. You can

learn more about Lord Huron and their travel plans on their website, lordhuron.com. Okay, now on with our show. If you've

listened to this podcast before, you have probably heard me mention the various things that I do, right?

I'm a licensed in marriage and family therapist. I'm a licensed psychologist. I'm a board

certified coach. I'm the founder and clinical director of growing self-counseling and coaching.

But in my heart of hearts, I have a very special warm place for people struggling in the aftermath of

breakups and divorces. And it's really like if I do have a specialty, I mean, I do a lot of couples counseling and therapy and all the things.

But I love working with people around this issue in particular.

And I always feel a little funny to tell people what I do.

I'm a marriage counselor.

But I really specialize in breakups and divorces because they're like, are you like the worst marriage counselor

in the history of the world? Like, no. You know, so just to be clear, I first and foremost,

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