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Historically, domestic violence programmes have been centred around the victim, with women's refuges and helplines all designed to provide support.

But what if there was a way not just to protect the victims, but to stop their abuses?

I love prevention, and I always think if we can do prevention work,

then we can hopefully reduce the amount of people that need a victim survivor service.

Now, there's a push to challenge the perpetrators, and that starts with understanding them.

It is often a cycle of behaviour. It's a pattern that has developed in a particular relationship,

and you need to see it as that, rather than this person is a lost cause and is evil through and through.

Early next year, the government is set to release its domestic abuse strategy,

and one pillar of that will be dealing with perpetrators.

But how do these programmes work, and can abusive men really change?

You're listening to stories of our times from the Times and the Sunday Times.

I'm Manvina Rana.

Today, can working with abusive men cut violence against women.

It was whilst covering the murder of Sarah Everard that Rosie Kinchin, a Sunday Times feature writer,

first heard about perpetrator intervention programmes.

She was writing about male violence, and what could be done to stop it?

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