Can We Trust Silicon Valley With Superintelligence? — With Nick Clegg

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Alex Kantrowitz

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4.6 • 395 Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Nick Clegg is the former president of Global Affairs at Meta and deputy prime minister of the UK. Clegg joins Big Technology Podcast for a discussion about whether Silicon Valley should be trusted with superintelligence and the risks it will navigate on the way there. In the second half, we also talk about how Silicon Valley uses money to buy influence and wield power in Washington. Tune in for a frank discussion about the economic, business, and political realities facing the tech industry as it pursues its most expensive and ambitious project. --- Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice. Want a discount for Big Technology on Substack + Discord? Here’s 25% off for the first year: https://www.bigtechnology.com/subscribe?coupon=0843016b Questions? Feedback? Write to: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	You'd want, surely, politicians to do exactly the thing you've just said, which is hypocritical,
0:04.2	is they take the money and the invite person X from Silicon Valley Y to the fishing weekend or the golf retreat.
0:10.2	You want them, surely, then still to be able to get up on their hind legs and excoriate those companies and apply pressure to them.
0:17.0	But they've done nothing to big tech.
0:19.6	The former president of Global Affairs at Meta and Deputy Prime Minister for the UK joins
0:24.4	us for a conversation about how to save the internet and whether we should trust Silicon
0:28.3	Valley with super intelligence.
0:30.4	That's coming up right after this.
0:32.8	Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool-headed and nuanced conversation of the tech world and beyond. Today, we are
0:39.2	joined by Sir Nick Clegg, the former president of Global Affairs at Meta and the former deputy
0:44.6	prime minister of the UK and the author of this great new book, How to Save the Internet,
0:49.6	the Threat to Global Connection and the Age of AI and Political Conflict. It's going to be a great conversation, Nick. Great to see political conflict. It's going to be a great
0:54.2	conversation. Nick, great to see you again. It's good to be here. Let's start with, so you spent
0:58.8	a number of years advising Mark Zuckerberg through the tricky mind fields of running Facebook and
1:05.4	being this sort of global lightning rod because of the power and influence that Facebook had.
1:10.2	So let's just do a little thought experiment to begin with.
1:13.3	You are advising Sam Altman.
1:16.2	What do the next five years look like?
1:18.1	What does Open AI have to be prepared for as it grows bigger and stronger?
1:24.3	Wow, what a question.
1:26.4	Certainly one of the things which will be top of my list and it's hardly, this hardly
1:32.3	betrays great insight, but I think this issue of the level of emotional dependency that people
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