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And this is a show for you if you're bored with people arguing on the internet over subjects

they know nothing about. A trigonometry we don't pretend to be the experts. We

ask the experts. Our brilliant guest this week is an author, and co-host of the conflicted podcast.

Thomas Mall, welcome to Trigonometry.

Thanks for having me. Nice to be here.

It is great to have you here. Tell everybody who you are, what's your story, how would you happen to be sitting in the chair that you are in right now?

Well I don't know that. You guys called me up, which I'm very pleased that you did. I'm Thomas Small. I'm American originally, though I've lived in England for about well in Europe for 19 years so correct decision so yes so so America seems like quite a long ways way

Who am I I left America as a young man and I wanted to be perfectly honest. I wanted to find God. I wanted to become one with God. A very strange young man kind of thing to want to do. I ended up spending several years in and out of Greek Orthodox monasteries in the Eastern Mediterranean.

And thinking of becoming a monk, deciding not to become a monk, traveling more widely around the Middle East,

deciding the Middle East was an interesting place.

Went to university here in London to study Arabic and then having spent a year in Damascus learning

that language and then traveling more I became a documentary filmmaker and I make

films in Arabic for for Arabs to watch.

And you also have the Conflicted Podcast which I introduced at the beginning.

Interesting, I listened to the first five minutes of the first episode and I was like,

okay this is going to be good. It does have that real capture feel to it.

Tell people a little bit about how it happened, what you do and how you met your co-host and a bit about

him as well.

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