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We all want economic growth, right? It's the thing that will bring in money for

public spending and pull Britain out of this downturn. Jeremy Hunt says only his policies can ensure it.

Rachel Reeves believes she can kick-start it.

But not everyone agrees with that. Some green campaigners say we should resign ourselves to de-growth for the sake of the planet,

and assuming we do want growth, we don't agree on how to get it.

So it's a great time to be talking to Daniel Susskind, Professor of Economics at Kings College London,

and he's just written a book about growth. Daniel, welcome to the bunker.

Pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.

When did the economy start growing?

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