Welcome to Energized, a podcast brought to you by GZero Media's Blue Circle Studio and presented by

NBridge. I'm J.J. Ramberg. At the end of the road is just a single individual who wants to have a

clean planet and clean water and something to pass on to

their kids, but are also terrified that they can't afford to feed their kids or pay rent or

pour gas in their car. So we're all kind of stuck in terms of knowing we want to do the right

thing, but terrified of the cost of doing the right thing.

So far on this podcast, we've explored big ideas about the current energy transition

and how it could impact geopolitics.

Today, I want to get down to brass tax.

What does the energy transition actually look like in practical terms?

Renewables like wind and solar are the fastest growing energy sources on Earth,

and that's thanks to research and development by both startups and legacy energy companies.

But the energy transition is about more than just technology.

It's about strong public policy.

Governments and businesses need to work

together to combine their respective strengths, and that's how we'll build a future that's both

environmentally and economically sustainable. Later on, we'll be talking with the Honorable Lisa

Rae. She's the vice chair of global investment banking for CIBC capital markets and a former member of the Canadian Parliament.

But first, let's check in with Enbridge CEO Greg Ebel.

Greg, when we look at climate change and the effects on the world right now, it's clear we have to make big

changes and we have to make them fast. But obviously, easier said than done. So what does that

actually look like in practice? Well, you know, you used an interesting word there, JJ, fast

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