Can we have prosperity without growth? With Tim Jackson

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🗓️ 24 May 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Is prosperity possible without growth? And in an age of environmental crisis and rising inequality, is our obsession with economic expansion doing more harm than good? On the podcast today, renowned economist Professor Tim Jackson challenges the very foundations of our economic thinking. In his groundbreaking book 'Prosperity Without Growth', Jackson argued that relentless pursuit of GDP not only fails to deliver human well-being — it actively damages both society and the planet. Now, in his latest book 'The Care Economy', Jackson issues a powerful warning: our fixation on growth has come at the cost of the most vital parts of our lives — care, health, and human connection. In a world that undervalues care work and prioritises profit over people, what would it take to build an economy centred on well-being instead of wealth? Jackson sat down with broadcaster Carl Miller to explore the future of prosperity, and why reimagining our values might just be the most important economic decision we face. ------ If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events ... Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:03.2	great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Sorrenti. Is prosperity possible without growth? And in an age of
1:10.7	environmental crises and rising inequality, is our obsession with economic expansion doing more harm than good.
1:17.6	On the podcast today, renowned economist Professor Tim Jackson challenges the very foundations of our economic thinking.
1:23.6	In his groundbreaking book, Prosperity Without Growth, Jackson argued that relentless pursuit of
1:29.4	GDP not only fails to deliver human well-being, it actively damages both society and the planet.
1:36.3	Now in his latest book, The Care Economy, Jackson issues a powerful warning.
1:40.9	Affixation on growth has come at the cost of the most vital parts of our lives,
1:45.0	care, health and human connection.
1:48.0	In a world that undervalues care work and prioritises profit over people,
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