Can We Get Clean Energy Without Dirty Mines?

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🗓️ 8 April 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Global sales of electric vehicles more than doubled in 2021. Projections for this year are for another huge gain as more automakers introduce more models with increasing range. This is all good news for transitioning to a clean energy economy. But sourcing the materials needed for clean energy might not be so clean. Mining is the leading industrial polluter in the U.S., but the climate crisis demands a transition to technologies that require raw materials to be extracted. How can the world get the minerals it needs to mitigate the climate crisis without creating other ecological disasters in the process? Guests: Morgan Bazilian, Director, Payne Institute, Colorado School of Mines Payal Sampat, Mining Program Director, Earthworks Maureen Penjueli, Coordinator, Pacific Network on Globalisation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.6	This is Climate One.
0:32.1	I'm Greg Dalton.
0:33.5	The transition to clean energy requires mining raw materials.
0:37.9	Whether you're looking at copper, nickel, platinum, palladium, gold, silver, whatever,
0:42.2	are all part of renewable energy technology, so we need them all.
0:46.7	So what are the mining impacts of renewable energy?
0:49.3	One of our biggest concerns has been not only the scaling up, but the scaling up without the adequate
0:58.5	environmental and social and human rights safeguards. And whose responsibility is it to solve
1:05.5	these problems? I think this is a real challenge and a problem for the first world.
1:11.6	It is very clear that we cannot continue to dig our way out and into growth.
1:17.6	We cannot continue to consume.
1:19.6	Can we get clean energy without dirty minds?
1:22.6	I'm Greg Dalton.
1:24.6	In 2021, global sales of EVs more than doubled. This year, automakers are
1:29.7	projected to make another huge gain, driven by soaring gas prices and more models with increased
1:35.3	range. Getting away from gas-powered vehicles is essential to transition to a clean energy economy.
1:41.6	But it's not all good news. Russia's invasion of Ukraine has disrupted
1:45.6	global supply chains and royal markets for nickel and other commodities used for renewables and
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