Can We Ever Understand Animals?
The Inquiry
BBC
4.6 • 1.7K Ratings
🗓️ 12 July 2018
⏱️ 24 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
By the time she died at the age of 46, Koko the gorilla was a global superstar. Not only could she apparently understand two thousand words of spoken English and convey her own thoughts and feelings using sign language, but she was even able to give her own pet kitten a name. Some say that it’s impossible to know whether Koko really understood what she was communicating, or whether she was just trying to please people by signing certain things. Either way, her death raises questions about animals, and the ways in which we try to understand them. On this week’s Inquiry we examine how recent discoveries are bringing us closer to understanding our fellow creatures. We reveal some surprising animal capabilities, and ask whether we can ever know what it’s like to be anything other than human.
image: European Hamster (Shutterstock)
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the inquiry on the BBC World Service with me Helen the Merriman. |
| 0:04.4 | Each week one question, four expert witnesses, and an answer. Oh, that was a good one. You really like to know about stuff. |
| 0:15.0 | I like it. |
| 0:16.0 | It's a bright morning in California, |
| 0:18.0 | and Coco the Gorilla is learning to play the guitar. |
| 0:21.0 | This is the greatest thing that ever happened. |
| 0:24.0 | She leans back against the wall, |
| 0:26.0 | strumming the strings with her long black fingernails, |
| 0:29.0 | while her teacher looks on proudly. |
| 0:31.0 | And that teacher isn't your regular guitar teacher. He's one of the best |
| 0:34.9 | bass guitarists in the world. Flea from the Red Top Chili Peppers. |
| 0:39.2 | Cocoa, you're a very curious gorilla. They get on brilliantly as well as the music there's |
| 0:45.2 | cuddling tickling but most importantly a connection. It was just a |
| 0:50.4 | deeply emotional we really became friends and |
| 0:54.4 | cuddled and laughed and looking in Coco's eyes and |
| 0:58.9 | feeling that level of understanding and compassion and |
| 1:01.4 | curiosity. It was just great. and celebrity friend, she had many others, and that's because Coco was a global |
| 1:14.6 | superstar. She had her own YouTube channel and graced the covers of magazines. But a |
| 1:19.8 | few weeks ago, Coco's journey came to an end. |
| 1:26.0 | 46 years old, she died in her sleep. |
| 1:29.0 | After living a life that changed the way people thought about guerrillas, |
| 1:32.0 | she said to have mastered sign language. that changed the way people thought about guerrillas. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from BBC, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of BBC and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

