I'm Elise Hugh. It's TED Talks Daily. You're about to hear a talk about breakups and heartache, but from rapper and singer Dessa. So it's full of life and humor, too. In her 2018 archive talk from TEDx Wanchai, Dessa shares the story of how she used the neurobiology of love to learn how to fall out of love.

It's fascinating stuff.

Hello, my name is Dessa, and I'm a member of a hip-hop collective called Dume Treat.

And I make my living as a performing and touring rapper and singer.

When we perform as a collective, there's a lot of jumping, there's a lot of sweating,

it's loud, it's very high energy.

Sometimes there are unintentional body checks on stage.

Sometimes there are completely intentional body checks on stage.

It's kind of a hybrid between an intramural hockey game and a

concert. However, when I perform my own music as a solo artist, I tend to gravitate towards more

melancholy sounds. A few years ago, I gave my mom the rough mixes of a new album, and she said,

baby, it's beautiful, but why is it always so sad?

You always make music to bleed out to.

And I thought, who are you hanging out with it?

You know that phrase?

But over the course of my career, I'd written so many

sad love songs that I got messages like this

from fans.

Release new music or a book.

I need help with my breakup.

And after performing and recording and touring those songs for a long time,

I found myself in a position

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