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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Can we break the Israeli-Palestinian paralysis? - with Tal Becker

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Hamas, News, Politics, News Commentary, October 7, Palestine, Government, War, Geopolitics, Israel, Society

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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0:42.1

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0:50.4

You are listening to an art media podcast.

0:55.6

There is genuine paralysis that is deeply understandable.

0:59.7

There are those who ideologically or politically do not want there to be progress

1:04.4

and take advantage of the paralysis and trauma in order to advance that agenda.

1:08.7

My argument is simply that if you think that this paralysis

1:11.8

is serving us well and there's nothing we can do about it, then that's fine. But if you think

1:16.9

it isn't serving us well, then asking what can we do about it feels like an urgent thing. I'm talking

1:22.6

about the real thing. How do you create a dynamic in this impossible reality and in the tragedy that we face

1:29.0

to nevertheless move to a better place and a more positive dynamic? If you want to produce

1:34.3

change, the first thing you need to do is generate a belief in the possibility of change.

1:39.1

And I think both societies believe fundamentally that change is not possible.

1:56.4

It's 8 a.m. on Wednesday, July 15th, in New York City and in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, at the Army War College, where I am right now for the AI and National Defense Summit, hosted by Senator Dave McCormick.

2:10.0

It's 3 p.m. on Wednesday, July 15th in Israel. On Monday, we released a conversation with Rahm.

2:21.8

After he gave a provocative speech at Tel Aviv University, where he offered his own take on how Israel should address the Palestinian state question.

2:27.1

It was a somewhat heated conversation, got a lot of attention, but one that I believe was done

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