Can Verhoeven Shock Usyk?
5 Live Boxing with Steve Bunce
BBC
4.7 • 3.1K Ratings
🗓️ 18 May 2026
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
How will a kickboxing world champion fare against one of the greatest heavyweights of all time? That’s the question Buncey puts to Olympic bronze medallist Frazer Clarke as the pair look ahead to this weekend’s spectacular showdown beneath the Egyptian pyramids between Rico Verhoeven and Oleksandr Usyk. Plus, they reflect on Dave Allen’s defeat to Filip Hrgovic, while Frazer gives an update on his own career after his narrow loss to Justis Huni.
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| 0:38.1 | This is Five Live Boxing. |
| 0:40.9 | Heavyweight season, part 46, well it feels that way. |
| 0:44.0 | The sun is nearly out, but it will be out on Saturday when we're at the Pyramids in Giza. |
| 0:49.7 | Alexander Usik defending his three world titles against the world's greatest ever kickboxer. |
| 0:56.1 | This is what he is, Rick Overhoven. |
| 0:58.2 | It's an interesting fight. |
| 0:59.7 | Trust me, now last Saturday, no sunshine in Doncaster, Dave Allen ran into a brick wall called |
| 1:05.8 | Philip Hergevich. |
| 1:07.6 | It was a big weekend for heavyweights, not a great weekend for Alan. |
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| 1:17.2 | So we could start outdoors in Doncaster where it was pouring a rain. |
| 1:21.6 | Or we could look forward to a trip down the Nile from Cairo to the pyramids, to a neon lit ring with Alexander Usik getting in the ring and Rico Verhova. |
| 1:31.8 | We could do both of those and I'm not even bothered which order we do it. |
| 1:34.4 | But the man I'm doing it with, I am bothered about. |
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