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From Cafe, welcome to stay tuned. I'm Pripyra. Trump's entire plan for re-election is about

delegitimizing voting, particularly voting by mail, frightening people and hoping that

that has a suppressive effect on the electorate because I think he thinks that if everyone

wants to vote votes, he loses big. And so it's a pretty cynical game he's playing but

I think that's the game. That's Mark Elias. As perhaps the top election

lawyer for Democrats for nearly two decades, he's overseen recount fights for United

States Senators and served as campaign general counsel for both John Kerry and Hillary Clinton.

Now Mark is playing a key role in the Biden campaign's legal war room. It's his job

to make sure that every vote is counted and that the Republicans don't get away with

any mischief. Mark joins me today to answer all your questions around voting from mail

in ballots to the so-called Red Marage. And we talk about the various ways that President

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