Should the president pardon himself and members of his family or would that be self-serving and

self-dealing and speaking of self-serving, did you know that David Boys and his mega law firm

got up to $10 million in welfare payments for COVID, money that

should have gone to mom-pop shops to stay in business, Instead, it went to David Boys,

David Boys who owns a yacht and his firm.

David Boys who owns a winery.

Could have sold the yacht, could have sold a winery and more money would have gone to poor people.

So today on the DUR show we talk about principles and self-serving actions.

Pardons are in the news once again,

according to reports in the New York Times and other media, Rudy Giuliani... According to

reports in the New York Times and other media,

Rudy Giuliani may have asked the president to pardon him,

even though he hasn't been indicted or under investigation

for anything, a kind of preemptive pardon.

I think Giuliani has denied it, and I don't know whether it's true,

but also on other media there are reports that the president is considering pardoning members

of his family and others preemptively.

Now let me first lay out the law and the history of such pardons and then we can get to the

policies.

I don't know whether or not the president is even considering these preemptive

pardons. There are two kind of preemptive pardons. One perfectly legal, the

other probably not legal. The perfectly legal one is the one that says you're

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