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Political Gabfest

Can Trump Cow Powell?

Political Gabfest

Slate Podcasts

Politics, News, Government

4.6 • 242 Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss why Trump is stepping up his attacks on Fed Chair Powell and how it could backfire, the increasingly inflammatory actions of ICE and the slim likelihood of justice for Renee Good in Minneapolis, and the Trump administration’s unsettling efforts to sow doubt about election integrity ahead of the midterms.


For this week’s Slate Plus bonus episode, Emily, John, and David discuss this week’s arguments at the Supreme Court in two cases about state bans on the participation of transgender kids in sports.

 

In the latest Gabfest Reads, David Plotz talks with Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales about his new book The Seven Rules of Trust: A Blueprint for Building Things That Last. They discuss how Wikipedia’s culture of assuming good faith and shared purpose became a model for building trustworthy digital communities — and what lessons that holds for companies, social media, and politics today.

 

Email your chatters, questions, and comments to gabfest@slate.com. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)

 

Podcast production by Nina Porzucki

 

Research by Emily Ditto


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Transcript

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0:00.0

I got to tell you, I don't like this shirt choice on my part.

0:03.1

If I can just...

0:03.9

You and I are really not, like, on the same way.

0:06.7

You guys are really quite unusual.

0:09.4

But you match your rug and I sort of match my flower.

0:13.0

We'll just go with it.

0:14.2

Okay, here we go, an actual show.

0:20.3

Hello and welcome to Slate Political Gab Fest.

0:26.8

January 15th, 2026, the Ken Trump Cow Powell edition.

0:36.7

Trying to say Cow Powell twice.

0:39.0

I am David Plotz of CityCast here in Washington, D.C., from New Haven, Connecticut.

0:44.4

Her home in New Haven, Connecticut, and the New York Times Magazine, and Yale University Law School.

0:48.3

It's Emily Bazelon.

0:50.1

Hello, Emily.

0:50.9

Hey, David.

0:51.8

Hey, John.

0:52.6

And from New York City, where he is the host of a lively internal dialogue about Chester Arthur.

0:59.6

John Dickerson.

1:02.1

That was very funny.

1:05.1

Hi.

1:06.5

Hi, y'all.

1:07.6

This week on the Gab Fest, Trump goes nuclear on Fed Chair Jerome Powell, will it backfire?

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