and Hello, Matthew Collar here and joining me the editor of Bills Digest which is basically a purple insider for the Buffalo Bills and we've been talking a lot about the bills on the show because of their successful transition from a

pathetic joke of a franchise to now a premier team in the National Football League

Mark Luddwizak, friend of mine from Buffalo.

Always respect and enjoyed your work and getting together when we did in Buffalo, Mark, how are you?

I'm doing great. How you doing?

Well, I'm doing good. I know you're a little out of breath from shoveling 15 inches of snow I

Don't have to do that so much anymore two to four and they start like getting a little antsy around Minnesota. Yeah, it's, it was a bit of an adventure today,

but you know what, January 17th, the first,

it really hasn't been bad to this point,

so I can't complain too much.

Okay, well, I got some pictures and videos for my parents of the big snow and it's like,

well, it's gonna be minus 20 here later this week, but I guess I'll have to take that.

So here's where I want to start with you, Mark. I made this comparison recently about the bills and where they've gone over the last few years and the Vikings who just moved on from just track with me here a defensive-minded

coach who said ridiculous things in press conferences a quarterback that people argued

with or about all the time but was basically a middle of the

pack quarterback and they got a different coach who created a better culture

and drafted a quarterback that was more athletic. You see where I'm taking this from the Mike Zimmer and Kirk Cousins era?

I've used the bills as the example of the team that you can be if you're the Vikings.

But tell me if that's the right path to take that or like what would I

be missing in that comparison? No, I think that's fair. Unfortunately, I think even the franchises or teams that can go into that process with the best of intentions,

sometimes you don't really know what you've got in a new coach until you have him in house and you have him for a year.

I mean, we could go back throughout all of the drought years in Bill's history.

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