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The Take

Can the US healthcare system ever be fair for Black patients?

The Take

Al Jazeera

Politics, News Commentary, Daily News, News

4.7748 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2024

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

When a new kidney could save your life, every minute counts. When Jazmin Evans discovered she could have received a kidney four years earlier, she was shocked. When she found out the delay was due to a racially biased testing process, she tried to warn others.

In this episode:

  • Jazmin Evans, Kidney transplant patient, PhD student of Africology at Temple University

Episode credits:

This episode was produced by Manahil Naveed and Amy Walters, with Veronique Eshaya, Shraddha Joshi, and our host, Malika Bilal. It was edited by Alexandra Locke.

Our sound designer is Alex Roldan. Joe Plourde mixed this episode. Our video editors are Hisham Abu Salah and Mohannad Al-Melhem. Alexandra Locke is The Take’s executive producer. Ney Alvarez is Al Jazeera’s head of audio.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Al Jazeera Podcasts.

0:07.0

Today, how one American search for a new kidney revealed a racial bias in the U.S. healthcare system.

0:17.0

A letter from her hospital came in the mail last year, explaining she should have been

0:21.4

added to the transplant list four years earlier and that a racially biased test was to blame.

0:27.5

How many lives has this hidden bias already taken? And how many are still at risk?

0:35.6

I'm Malika Bilal, and this is the take.

0:42.7

I was a senior in high school, and my school basically had this policy where every person that was a part of a sports team or

0:54.6

trying out for a sports team needed to get a physical. So I went to my primary and she did a number

1:01.6

of tests including a urine analysis, which basically she saw that I had protein in my urine,

1:07.7

which is a silent symptom for kidney disease. That's Jasmine Evans. Now, she's a PhD

1:14.7

student of Africology at Temple University. And she knows quite a bit about kidney disease,

1:21.6

maybe more than she would like. I am also a kidney health and racial equity advocate within the health care system.

1:29.6

But back in 2012, when all she wanted was to play sports, she ended up with a hard lesson in kidney health.

1:37.3

Honestly, as a 17-year-old, I knew that something was wrong with my kidneys, but I didn't really understand like the magnitude

1:46.1

of what that meant, basically saying that, you know, one day you're going to go into kidney

1:51.1

failure. Jasmine, do you remember the day that your doctors first brought up your kidneys?

1:58.8

Yes, absolutely. So for me, it was really hard to reconcile that at such a young age.

2:03.9

Because, I mean, at that point, you're thinking about, well, how long do I have?

2:08.8

Is this terminal?

2:10.1

Like, what's going on?

2:11.4

But I'm really grateful by the fast action of my doctors because they were able to catch it

2:16.9

relatively early and we were able to

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