The ocean is unforgiving and I love being on the water. I love being on the ocean but the ocean wants to kill you.

It is always trying to find a way to get you.

Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor, where we're all just trying to survive in a rough world.

What's up, SDS Nation, and welcome to the second episode of the day of Surviving the Survivor, the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guess in true crime.

And next week we're bringing you a special series called Surviving My Biggest case.

So this is actually my third show of the day.

I recorded one of those day about a serial killer named

Scott Kimball, if you haven't heard of them,

look them up. We have the FBI agent Johnny Grusing who hunted him down and caught him and told us the story. But tonight it is a much different sort of mystery that we are examining unfolding right now in the cold dark

depths of the Atlantic Ocean. Of course the frantic search is ongoing for the missing

submersible called Titan, which is carrying five passengers to the Titanic record site.

Now it is in desperation mode as oxygen is set to run out soon. The big question of the evening, can the five

passengers aboard including a teenager who's on there with his father can he and

the others still be saved. We put together an

amazing panel for you. Andy Norris, the man in the grayish Oxford shirt,

22 years service as a US Coast Guard attorney.

He retired from the service in 2016 with rank of captain.

He was appointed as a court-martial trial court judge,

then a Coast Guard Court of Criminal Appeals judge.

He qualified as a marine casualty investigator and became a maritime trial attorney.

He's also an adjunct professor at Williams Law School

and does it all, including joins us here on Surviving the Survivor.

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