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Can The Rise In Solar Power Balance Out Clean Energy Cuts?

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🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Solar power adoption has been rising fast. Amid recent federal efforts to limit clean energy, will it make a dent in our climate impact?

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Ira Flato, and you're listening to Science Friday.

0:06.8

Today on the podcast, solar power adoption has been rising fast around the world.

0:12.7

But amid recent federal efforts to limit clean energy, will it make a dent in our climate impact?

0:19.1

This is no longer the whole foods of energy. Nice but pricey.

0:25.1

This is the Costco of energy. It's cheap. It's available in bulk. It's on the shelf, ready to go.

0:36.7

Since President Trump returned to office, his administration has been aggressive in rolling back clean energy initiatives.

0:44.7

Trump's big, beautiful bill, and did tax credits for solar panels and electric vehicles.

0:49.6

And according to reporting from the New York Times this week, the EPA is moving to cancel

0:55.7

$7 billion in federal grants that were intended to help low and middle income families

1:02.1

install solar on their homes. But that isn't the whole story, because Texas, California,

1:08.6

and other states are bringing so much solar and battery power online

1:13.9

that in March, fossil fuels generated less than half the electricity in the U.S. for the first time

1:22.1

ever. And internationally, solar has gotten so cheap to build and install that it's fundamentally

1:28.6

transforming many countries' power grids.

1:31.6

So, despite all the clean energy rollbacks on this side of the pond, where exactly does

1:37.3

solar adoption stand in the U.S. and across the world right now?

1:41.4

Do we still need the defunct solar tax credits? And is it enough to have a

1:46.1

meaningful impact on our climate? Climate activist Bill McKibben has written all about this in his

1:53.0

new book. Here comes the sun, a last chance for the climate and a fresh chance for civilization.

1:59.2

Bill is based in Middlebury, Vermont.

2:01.4

Bill, always welcome back to the show.

2:03.7

Nice to have you.

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