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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Can the Republicans Sell a Whole New Trump?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2020

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

What is the Republican election strategy? And is it working? This week on “The Argument,” the journalist Charlie Sykes joins Michelle and Frank to debate whether or not Trump has made a strong enough case for his re-election during the Republican convention and if his fierce message will translate to undecided voters. Then, they turn to a question facing many Biden conservatives, like Charlie: What is the future of the party? Plus, Charlie suggests a page-turner that will make time disappear. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:01.5

I'm Frank Bruney, and this is the argument.

0:08.3

It's the Republicans' week to make their pitch to the American people.

0:12.3

Who is the Republican National Convention for this year?

0:16.1

And is Trumpism the party's future?

0:19.1

And finally, a recommendation.

0:21.8

With Ross on vacation, we've recruited an excellent conservative voice to help us make sense of this week's convention.

0:33.6

Charlie Sykes, editor at large of the online political news network, The Bowlwork,

0:38.6

is joining us for what will certainly be a spirited discussion.

0:42.9

Charlie, thanks so much for coming on the argument.

0:45.7

Well, thanks for having me.

0:47.5

So we're recording this on Tuesday after just the first night of the convention.

0:52.5

And that was something.

0:57.4

I assume you watched it, Charlie, and I'm curious what your thoughts are in the aftermath of what

1:03.2

the party and Trump are trying to accomplish this week and what their message is and who they're

1:08.4

sending it to.

1:10.5

It's interesting, the number of people who evaluate these based on the production values

1:15.1

as if it's a big show.

1:16.8

In the end, I just want to remind everybody, it all comes back to Donald Trump.

1:19.9

Whatever we're seeing here, it's all going to come back to Donald Trump.

1:23.0

And this is a convention that started off by essentially declaring that it had no ideology,

1:28.3

no ideas, no platform, literally, that it was all Trumpism.

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