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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Can the law keep up with crypto? With professor Tonya Evans

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business, Technology

4.23.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2022

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

I’m going to let you in on a Decoder secret: at the end of last year, I tasked our producers with finding better ways for us to cover crypto and Web 3.0 on Decoder. I don’t think it’s any secret that I’m fairly skeptical of crypto, but I want to come by that skepticism honestly—and on the flip side, I want to make sure to see its opportunities and benefits clearly. We’ve already done episodes on Bitcoin and DAOs, decentralized autonomous organizations, and we’re going to do more episodes as the year goes on. Today I’m talking to Tonya Evans, a law professor at Penn State Dickinson Law. She teaches IP law, copyright, and blockchain. She also hosts the Tech Intersect podcast, where she covers how law and technology intersect. She has spent a lot of time thinking about crypto assets and how they interact with the law. Tonya’s point of view is that we shouldn’t just abandon many of the legal frameworks we have today—she just wants them to adapt to this new internet. Links: The counterfeit NFT problem is only getting worse Instagram says sites need photographers’ permission to embed posts BlockFi settlement with the SEC A cringe rapper slash Forbes contributor allegedly found with billions in stolen Bitcoin Constitution DAO Decoder episode Alfonso Ribeiro Sues Fortnite Over Use of His Signature Fresh Prince Dance, The Carlton The ‘Carlton dance’ couldn’t be copyrighted for a Fortnite lawsuit Adi Robertson's reporting about Spice DAO Tonya Evans' website, ProfTonyaEvans.com Tonya Evans on Twitter Transcript: https://www.theverge.com/e/22708620 Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:07.4

I'm Neil Apital, editor in chief of the Verge and DeCoder is my show about big ideas.

1:12.6

Another problem.

1:13.6

I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

1:16.1

At the end of last year, I asked the DeCoder producers to come up with better ways for

1:21.9

us to cover crypto and web3.

1:23.8

I don't think it's any secret that I'm fairly skeptical of crypto.

1:28.4

I want to make sure I come by that skepticism, honestly.

1:32.6

And on the flip side, I want to make sure that I see the opportunities and benefits clearly.

1:38.3

We've already done episodes of DeCoder on Bitcoin and DAOs that's DAO or decentralized

1:43.8

autonomous organizations.

1:44.8

I'm going to do more episodes as the year goes on.

1:48.4

There is an awful lot of money and talent flowing into crypto.

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