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Can the global HIV/AIDS fight recover from Trump's cuts?

Consider This from NPR

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🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

HIV has been in retreat around the world. 

Fewer people are dying of the disease.

New infections are decreasing. 

More HIV positive people have access to life saving medicine.

Those trend lines have been moving in the right direction for decades. 

And US investment is one big reason.


The Trump Administration dismantled foreign assistance through USAID, it continued PEPFAR — the President’s Emergency Plan For AIDS Relief — but much of the work is either no longer happening or happening at a very reduced capacity.

For decades, the United States led global efforts to end HIV/AIDS. That's no longer happening. Where will the trend lines go from here? 

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This episode was produced by Jeffrey Pierre. You also heard reporting in this episode from NPR’s Gabrielle Emanuel from Zambia.

It was edited by Courtney Dorning and Rebecca Davis.

Our executive producer is Sami Yenigun.


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0:00.0

Earlier this year, Susan Hillis got a voice message from Pastor Billions Chondway.

0:05.9

Calvary greetings. Calvary greetings. Dr. Susan, how are you?

0:11.1

Pastor Chondway was at his home in Zambia. Dr. Hillis was at an airport in Thailand

0:16.4

where she had been attending a conference of Christian mission hospitals. She could hear the worry in his voice.

0:22.6

I had tears in my eyes and was choked up.

0:25.2

Pastor Chondway was urgently trying to find HIV medication for a nine-year-old orphan with AIDS.

0:32.3

She has no chance unless someone can get her medicine in the middle of rural Zambia. Who's going to do that?

0:39.2

I was thinking she's going to die. For years, the U.S. has funded global efforts to prevent and

0:44.9

treat HIV. When President Trump took office, the new administration stopped most foreign assistance,

0:51.4

including much of the program that serves orphans with AIDS.

0:54.8

That left Pastor Chondway scrambling.

0:57.6

Then by chance, it would say miracle.

1:00.7

He found someone who agreed to share their remaining pills with the child.

1:04.7

God save Diana that she doesn't develop symptoms because the dosage was too much or was less.

1:14.5

Since the start of the year, millions of people have faced situations like this one,

1:19.6

scrambling after the U.S. slashed global HIV prevention and treatment programs.

1:24.6

Now, the U.S. says it will support a new HIV prevention drug that the medical

1:29.7

community calls a game changer. Consider this. For decades, the U.S. led global efforts to end

1:38.4

HIV AIDS. Where will the trend lines go from here?

1:47.6

From NPR, I'm Ari Shapiro.

1:59.3

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2:02.4

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