Speakle and Holmes.

Craig Counsel.

When I'm on Sports Talk Radio, I learned that just keep talking, and that's helpful, right?

Could you expound on that?

No, I think that says it all.

Okay, good.

I'm going to go the anti-talk radio stance here.

Afternoons on the score.

Craig, how does not having John Birdie and having the three catchers affect how you

how you manage a game during the course of it? Yeah, I mean, look, we ultimately made a decision

that just the depth of catcher and injuries to current catchers, we didn't want to get in a bind

in that situation.

You know, I think John, you know, he wasn't playing a lot.

And he had a pretty limited role.

And, you know, but we are, we do have to do some things a little bit differently.

It's Craig Counsel on with us earlier.

If you want, you can go check out the rewind function on the Odyssey app and listen to the whole

thing.

It's pretty good for a team that's now eight games back in the National League Central going

into action tonight.

Before we get back to talking about what's going on with the Cubs,

a lot of great football conversation.

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