Can the Canaanite conquest be reconciled with a God of love? Paul Copan vs Randal Rauser

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🗓️ 7 October 2022

⏱️ 91 minutes

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How should we understand Old Testament accounts of warfare and violence where God seems to command the slaughter of men, women and children? Paul Copan, author of 'Is God A Vindictive Bully?' aims to show why the Old Testament accounts, severe as they may seem, are not incompatible with Jesus in the New Testament. Randal Rauser, author of 'Jesus Loves Canaanites', says that too many 'apologists for genocide' are defending the indefensible and argues for an alternative reading of scripture. They discuss whether the warfare passages are hyperbolic, whether non-combatants would have been killed, and whether the term 'genocide' is appropriate. For 'Is God a Vindictive Bully?' by Paul Copan: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/is-god-a-vindictive-bully/408700 For 'Jesus Loves Canaanites' by Randal Rauser: https://randalrauser.com/book/jesus-loves-canaanites/ For Paul Copan's debate with Greg Boyd in 2018: Part 1 & Part 2 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training-and-events • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:00.0	I am also maintaining that in the ancient Ereast as with Israel and the book of Joshua as
0:15.2	a war text that you have great degrees of exaggeration.
0:20.1	There are multiple ways in which to exaggerate, you know, merisms that is this description
0:25.9	of totality.
0:27.5	Even women, young and old, no survivors, we utterly destroyed them or however that
0:31.3	term, how Rama is to be translated and I look at various options there.
0:35.4	It's not always straightforward.
0:36.8	And then it describes the Israelites' soldiers as returning to the city in verse 24 and
0:42.6	they return to put everyone to the sword.
0:45.1	All the Israelites returned to eye and killed those who were in it.
0:47.9	Now we're specifically talking about those who were not combatants who did not go out
0:51.3	to fight the Israelites, remained within eye, they were all butchered.
0:55.4	And so it's not just combatants that are being killed, it's men, it's women, it's children.
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1:06.1	Hello welcome to the show Paul Copan and Randall Rouser, a debating Old Testament warfare
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