Right now, what we are seeing is an electorate that is engaging in a way that I think is surprising the political elites.

Wait, actually, I'm going to have you say that again in non-political speak.

Okay. I don't even know how to do that anymore.

No. I'm joking. I'm joking.

Voters care about more than one thing.

And they are demanding the people who are asking to represent them to think about them in a more complex way.

When Democrats have national success, it's because they build broad coalitions.

Their big tent is their greatest strength.

It's also their greatest weakness.

And our guest today knows that as well as anyone.

Ashley Allison was national coalitions director for the winning Biden-Harris campaign in 2020.

Before that, she worked on the winning Obama and then vice president Biden re-election in

2012. And so we wanted to know the strategy in 2024, as things are looking a little wobbly for

Dems. Ashley Allison, welcome to the assignment. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

So in your opinion, how do campaigns approach black and brown

voters? Is it a panic towards the end for turnout, which is kind of what I see? Is it like,

what's the struggle for people who do the actual, what we call ground game knocking on doors, of getting

candidates and campaigns attention when there's a problem?

You know, historically, in both parties, when they do outreach to communities of color,

it is what we call GOTV, get out the vote.

And that is literally the last four days of the election cycle,

where you aggressively knock on doors to get people

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