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Can the BBC survive?

The Story

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3.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

After the resignations of two of its most senior members of staff, the BBC is being questioned over allegations of institutional bias. Donald Trump has threatened to sue the organisation, and with negotiations about the continuation of the BBC’s funding model underway, where does it leave our national broadcaster?


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Guest: Rosamund Urwin, media editor, The Sunday Times. 

Host: Manveen Rana. 

Producers: Edward Drummond, Shabnam Grewal, Harry Stott.

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0:00.0

From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story.

0:05.8

I'm Manvine Rana.

0:09.8

It began with a 10-second clip that went out in a BBC documentary more than a year ago.

0:18.0

We're going to walk down to the Capitol, and I'll be there with you, and we fight.

0:25.1

We fight like hell. Donald Trump, just before the January the 6th Capitol riot, seems to be

0:33.9

directly calling for violent action. Yet that sentence was stitched together from two clips, almost an hour apart.

0:43.8

At the time, most people didn't notice the edit,

0:46.7

but when a memo from someone investigating BBC complaints was leaked last week,

0:52.8

all hell broke loose.

0:58.0

The chairman of the organisation issued a formal response yesterday.

1:02.9

We accept that the way the speech was edited did give the impression of a direct call for violent

1:08.5

action. The BBC would like to apologise for that error of judgment.

1:13.6

The leaked memo went beyond one Trump clip

1:16.5

into wider questions about bias at the national broadcaster.

1:21.3

And while the BBC made it clear that these issues had been investigated

1:24.8

long before they were leaked to the press,

1:27.6

people had been disciplined and departments restructured.

1:31.1

It was too little, too late to save two of the most senior figures at the institution.

1:42.8

The Director-General, Tim Davy, and the Head of News, Deborah Tennis, had already resigned.

1:50.0

I would like to say it has been the privilege of my career to serve as the CEO of BBC News and to work with our brilliant team of journalists.

2:00.0

I stepped down over the weekend because the buck stops with me.

2:04.2

But I'd like to make one thing very clear.

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