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Okay, we are back. We're back.

We have a very special guest today that we're very excited to have with us.

Filmmaker, journalist, documentarian, the director of his new six-part series

Can't Get You Out of My Head, an emotional history of the modern world.

Mr. Adam Curtis.

Welcome, Adam.

Thank you. I'm sure of it.

Glad to see you.

Glad to be in the intro because I was going to flood that.

Your work has been called dazzling and coherent, which is much nicer than most of what has been said about us.

So I feel like we're all off to a good start.

Well, I guess I wanted, my first question is I wanted to ask you about this idea, this notion of emotional history.

And the way in which your film, at least in the first part, seems to be primarily about, or most of the protagonists are women.

And if history, as you've said, is sort of what the ruling class tells us reality is, conventional thought would sort of follow that women have been excluded from producing history or participating in this narrative-izing of reality.

But as you show in your film, lots of women have had profound influence, even if they've been relegated to sort of an emotional realm.

Like, Jen Quing, Mao Zedong's wife, who the film is in the large part about, sort of weaponize the drama of the revolution to become incredibly powerful.

And so my question is, do you think that there's a relationship between emotionality and femininity, and then what was your approach or interest in telling an emotional history?

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