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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm James Hill. I'm joined today by Katie Bowles

and Kate Andrews. Now the last recording we did was on Saturday morning and that was just after

that extraordinary scenes in the Oval Office between President Zelensky and President Trump.

Katie, two days on, we've now had a summit in London.

Take us through what's happened since then.

Yeah, so as we discussed on Saturday, we saw the immediate fallout.

I think as the weekend has gone on, it's become clear of the role

that the UK Prime Minister would like to play, which is effectively acting as a bridge

and the phrase that you'll keep hearing as lasting peace, both from the US side, from the Europeans,

from Kirstama, of course, how you define what lasting piece looks like is the real question.

And when Kirstama appeared on the Laura Koonsberg show on Sunday, he was quite short on the

details, but get saying, well, it's lasting peace, it's lasting peace.

But I think there is a clear attempt in number 10 to try not to have too much of a running

commentary on what they're trying to do, and to also not do particular readouts of every time they have a call with Donald Trump

or they meet with Zelensky.

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