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Hello, short waivers.

Aaron Scott here and today we have a visit from Kirk Sigler.

Hello there, Kirk.

Hey, Aaron.

So I'm guessing that as an NPR correspondent covering the Western states, you've basically

become a de facto climate reporter.

Right.

I mean, I think you could probably say that about any beat anywhere right now, but it just

feels like here in the West climate change just sort of touches everything we do and every

part of life from water to recreation and coming off this winter, kind of a mediocre

winter for both water storage and skiing.

The winter has already gotten 30 days shorter since 1980.

Wow.

You see climate change everywhere, even in billboards for ski resorts on the side of the

freeway, all about how they're trying to make skiing green and go 100% renewable energy.

I mean, they've got to confront it somehow because climate change is an existential threat

for the sport of skiing.

And yet it's not like it's anything new.

This is something that we've been dealing with for decades now.

And as I understand, it's something that you reported on way back in 2006.

Right.

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