Rise and I'm

I'm Sammy Sage.

And this is American Fever Dream presented by Betches News.

Where we explore the absurdities and oddities of our uniquely American

experience.

Today we are joined by authors Lisa Larer and Elizabeth Diaz to talk about their new and

very necessary book, The Fall of Row, The Rise of a New America, a worse America, that's not in the title. I just added that.

Welcome and thank you for joining us to talk about your wonderful, yet terrible book.

Thanks for having us.

Thanks so much for having us.

Yeah.

We're thrilled to speak to you.

I do want to give you compliments on the book.

It is really, really incredibly well written

and somehow you're able to incorporate cliffhangers

into a story that I feel like we kind of know the end of, or at least the ultimate end of, the way you've told this story and have

demonstrated the point of the way that Roe was taken down and how this is really so much bigger than just this court case.

The way you did it was amazing, it is really terrifying to read though.

Thank you for exploring these really harrowing topics, first of all.

Oh, thank you.

It was really important to us that we told the story of how Roel

but we also sort of explained what we believed

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