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Last October, a Seneth by-election took place in Kaffili, South Wales.

As long as the seat had existed, for over 100 years, it had belonged to Labour.

But that night, Welsh Labour fell to third place. Reform galloped into second, and after

fighting in 18 elections since the

1980s, Plight Cymry's Lindsay Whittle took first place with almost 50% of the vote. Is this a stark

demonstration of how politics in Wales is changing? I'm Anoushekelian and you're listening to

Daily Politics from the New Statesman. In today's episode, our political correspondent, Megan Kenyon, is joined by Rina Piaweth, the leader of Plied Khmery.

Here's Megan with more.

Thank you for coming and joining us in the New Statesman studio, Reen.

Real pleasure.

I want to start by asking you about Kaffili.

Do you think that people underestimated Plied Comrie in the run-up to that election?

I think they did, and certainly the far-right in politics did,

and I think they almost assumed that by chucking £100,000 at a campaign

and a few visits from Nigel Farage, it would be in the bag.

They'd long eyed up communities such as Garfili, assuming that they would walk into the reform

fold.

But that's not what happened.

And what we saw in that by-election, which has become tatemic for the change going on in

in Welsh politics now, is that people saw that that Plied Cymry as a, you know,

communities up party was winning respect with people at a level never seen before, and that, you know, positive, you know, hugely positive votes,

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